You might not know it from the way we act, but Pat and I are probably two of the most anti-social folks you ever met. I'm not kidding. We spent 12 years in a townhouse complex where our house actually touched two other people's houses and never really knew any neighbors except to wave hello to. We aren't mean people, we just keep to ourselves.
I was reminded of this while I was reading TW's post regarding her neighbors. I found it interesting so I thought I would tell you what I know of our neighbors now (we've lived in this house for three years).
To our right is a seemingly nice couple that put a lot of time into their yard. I think he might mow his grass 2 or 3 times a week! Ok, not really, but they do spend a lot of time in their yard. He's white. She's black. And their kids are the most beautiful brown! I am so envious! They are beautiful. I have talked to them once.
Three years.
To our left are our neighbors with (seemingly) a ton of dough. They have a beautiful pool (just like our neighbors to the right) and they have done a lot of beautiful landscaping. I have no idea who lives there. It is either an elderly couple or an elderly man or a young couple or some combination thereof. I have never talked to any of them.
Three years.
Behind us is a youngish couple with some number of children. Might be two. Might be seven. Not sure. They have a hot tub that they never use and a beautiful house. The husband loves to work in his yard wearing a dew rag. It's not a good look. I have talked to them once.
Three years.
Across the street is a very loud man that boards horses and has one or two or twelve really mean dogs. This guy yells a lot at the dogs and certain neighbors down the road that egg him on. I have talked to him once.
Three freakin' years.
See what I mean? We are just not social people. We get along with people just fine and we have really good friends. We get out and play fairly often and our social calendar is just packed. We just don't ever do anything with neighbors.
And, frankly, I'm ok with that.
Posted by Buzz at July 10, 2004 09:58 PMProximity breeds contempt! I don't wish to make anyone think that they can stop on by whenever they want to. Being friendly with neighbors invites trouble!
Posted by: Empress at July 10, 2004 10:05 PMI know you will take this correctly: I am sooooo glad we are NOT neighbors! I like being able to play at a distance, you know?
That way if we get all drunk and posty (no, wait, that's me and Amalah), we'll never have to pretend to be fumbling for keys at the front door or fiddling with the radio dial in the car to avoid making eye contact later.
However, I am fairly sure that if we were neighbors, you'd know how many kids we had, our favorite things to BBQ, and all the things that make us mad enough to shout!!!
Posted by: Mindy at July 10, 2004 10:44 PMHeyyyy, you guys are the "Anti-Social Couple"? No way! We (the neighbors) make fun of you all the time. I had no idea...
Posted by: Busy Mom at July 10, 2004 11:13 PMI agree with Empress. Neighbors almost always mean trouble.
Posted by: Jennifer at July 10, 2004 11:37 PM
Yeah, I never talk to my neighbors. I don't even really know who they are. I kind of envisioned that when I moved into an apartment building, I would see people in the elevator and stuff, but when I do, we just nod hello and stand in silence. I know the woman next door to me is some kind of musician, because I hear her practicing her oboe at all hours, but aside from that...don't know their names, don't really know anything about any of them. Oh well.
Posted by: Claire at July 11, 2004 12:33 AMWell hello neighbor it is about time we met but you got just a few things wrong....you see we are your neighbors to your left that you don't know but it is all just appearance really we aren't rolling in dough....we are uo to our....well in debt....the pool is beautiful never used and oh guess the yards a ton of money went into them and the upkeep. You never see us or have not talked with us because we both work two jobs now and we left one of the kids at Walmart and never went back for her and the other one well he ran away....
Well glad we could at least say hello neighbor....
Posted by: Sweet N Sassy at July 11, 2004 01:38 AMYou've just described us. 5 and a half years here. Although I AM the neighborhood child-watcher -- that is, I know where your kids are when you don't ;) And I give a mean glare to anyone who speeds through our area, possibly endangering our little population...
Posted by: AGK at July 11, 2004 07:59 AMMost neighbors are trouble. The first day I moved into my townhouse the old lady downstairs said "well, I HOPE your children are well behaved..we don't HAVE alot of children around here" I got worried - I thought maybe they kill them or something... I have to admit, that sometimes I DO slam the door extra hard when I am leaving the house at 7:oo AM. Why? Cause she told me she sleeps till 7:30..tsk! tsk! How childish of me!
Posted by: debby at July 11, 2004 08:19 AMI kinda feel different. I wish I knew more of my neighbors. However, I live in an apt complex where people always come and go. If I decide that I don't like them, well, then I ignore them. But it's always good... what if you need a cup of sugar?!?! :)
Posted by: Adelle at July 11, 2004 08:28 AMSame here. Granted, we are military people and move every few years but we always keep a safe distance from the neighbors just in case we have to have words concerning their noise, kids, or stupid, barking, Nazi, weinie dogs. Know what I mean?
Posted by: Nanc' at July 11, 2004 10:17 AMWe know our neighbors - a little. And Don has been here forever. I've been here for 8 years.
We always wave when we see them - or at least almost always.
And our social calendar is also packed.
Oh, we have neighbors on the street behind us that we're really friendly with. Does that count?
I was living next to my parents friends the Smalltree's for a couple of years and I never talked to their daughter Sally until I burned my butt in a freak accident when I farted in their back yard near a fire the first time I went there. So you are not the only one, Buzz.
Posted by: Rockchild at July 11, 2004 04:05 PMOh,
My.
Dog.
You would hate my neighborhood.
S & D live next door with their brand new puppy C. C is actually off to puppy school now until October which seems like FOREVER. We all miss C very much.
Just on the other side of them is the C's. Awesome family. Two kids close in age to my kids...lots of time is spent between our houses.
Kitty corner behind me...directly behind the C's is the all girl family. Cute girls...not very girly tho. One likes to walk in my pond to catch frogs. Gross. Nice family tho.
In the other direction is P & B...wonderul retired couple that spends a lotta time in their yard and gave me a ton off left-over edging from a recent landscaping project. Their one and only grandchild...a boy, is just barely one year old and likes to venture over here to see my mini farm of pets. Their youngest daughter moved out in February for college in another state.
Down from them, same side of road...
Oh, you get the idea...
Kathy Howe lives in a social neighborhood...big surprise right?
Posted by: Kathy Howe at July 11, 2004 09:58 PMWOW! If I were your neighboer that would so NOT be happening.... I'd force ya out into my world.
Why? BEcause I'm bossy like that!
;)
-d
It's quite simple, actually. You're a different demographic than most of your neighbors - not necessarily anti-social. We had block parties in the 'hood where I grew up, but it was all families with kids, and mainly single-income households with one parent available to do some amount of socializing. Different demographic and, for that matter, different era.
Posted by: Princess at July 12, 2004 10:57 AMWe live on the edge of a cul de sac. My only interaction with any of my neighbors was to flip off one of them who was being an idiot while turning off of the highway.
3 weeks.
Doesn't take me long to make enemies.
Posted by: M at July 12, 2004 11:32 AMWe're the same way, and we've been in our house for... 4.5 years now. Although I do know there is a member of the sherriff's dept next door, and a bike cop down the street. :o)
Posted by: niki at July 12, 2004 01:58 PMI was just like you. Then I moved, and all these neighbor people wouldn't leave me alone. They'd wave. They'd shout. They'd ask to borrow one of my three powertools. But then I learned it was just the wives being nice. The neighbor men I talked to wanted to go inside and watch football. The good thing is, if I do go outside - several of the male ones give me free beer - so all is not lost.
...and "I was talking to neighbor so-and-so" has gotten me out of more honey-do's than I can remember. I'm begining to like this neighbor thing.
Posted by: Lee at July 12, 2004 04:49 PMYou would not survive as my neighbor.
After 6 months of living here I got so pissed that no one ever said hello that I beat on their doors. I introduced myself as the "neighbor you all ignored!!"
Then an interesting thing happened. Every one started coming out of their shells. People have been here for 26 years and didn't know the people next to them. Now they do.
When one of our neighbors found out she had cancer..we all took a turn taking the dog for a walk while they were at the hospital. We all took turns taking meals and making sure their fridge was stocked and their house was cleaned.
That neighbor passed away yesterday. Her husband (of 39 years) is beside himself. I have a pot roast going for the family reunion tonight and we (the neighbors) are serving their whole family. (60 people)
I have friends outside of my neighbors and granted I don't knock on their door every day but I do what I can to live in a peaceful environment.
So I gues it all depends on what you value. Privacy is good. If you don't like one neighbor it's good to be able to ignore them. But also when we as humans need another human being there's something to be said for someone that isn't a part of your family that you love and trust.
(stepped off soap box!!)
I agree with Princess. It's very much about demographics. All us are just WAY too busy. The only reason MANY of us WITH kids know our neighbors is because our kids know their kids, and part of our busy-ness is to know our kids' friends and their families.
Posted by: Willie's Buddy Jimmy at July 12, 2004 09:31 PM
-d: How do you feel about being Governor of Indiana?
[Buzz it]
Global Warming, my ass!
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